Sunday, 1 July 2012

ANALYSIS OF COMMENTS MADE BY TWO FOUNDING MEMBERS OF THE GROUP 'NIGERIAN ATHEISTS' .


My short stint with the Nigerian Atheists group exposed me and many others to bigotry, sexism, homophobia and a blatant disregard for facts in the group.  It really was an eye opening experience that brought to fore the characters of its founders and the real intention behind floating the group. It is indeed a pity because they give Atheists a bad name and has unfortunately contributed to the stereotype of Nigerians as yahoo scammers. I believe such experience should be documented for present and future purposes and HERE is a link to my write up on the experience

Below are my analyses of the comments made  by two of the Nigerian Atheists group main founders, Hotem Dajenid and Gamba Joel Sl, on the Nigerian Atheists group Facebook page , following my objection to the minutes of the first ever Nigerian Atheists group meeting, where I was blatantly misquoted and misrepresented. 

The analyses of their comments was posted as a document and comments on the group page , not surprisingly and very unethically, the document along with my OBJECTION TO THE MINUTES document and my comments were deleted by Hotem Dajenid and Kunle Ogunyemi, who are both founders and Admin members of  the Nigerian Atheists Facebook group page. The group has also been made a closed group, hmm .. now closeted atheists or just hiding their bigoted, sexist , homophobic group from the prying eyes of the public?  They form a backdrop of interesting characters for a good storyline worth reading about HERE!

Hotem Dajenid WROTE- 
 “This will be settled soon, and since the public's memory is short, this won't be remembered six months from now. A few of us most affected will always remember, but atheists of Nigeria will continue to progress.”

My Analysis -
This comment speaks volume! 

- “This will be settled soon”?  Really?

How? By bullying and sweeping the issue under the carpet?

- “and since the public's memory is short, this won't be remembered six months from now.”

So you are relying on the public forgetting about your misdeeds, bigotry, sexism, homophobic comments, lack of values etc in roughly about six months? Hmm… this really is an insult to the general public.

It also shows that you really have no idea how the internet works. Haven’t you learned from the downfall of your friend, Gamba Joel, who was having a jolly good time plagiarizing bloggers works on the internet and passing it off as his own words until it all came back to bite him in the ass, when a more enlightened, conscientious woman exposed him for the fraud he truly is? (All credits to Abbie Mimiko for that great GAMBAGATE Expose!)

Hotem Dajenid, unlike the public, the internet does not have a short memory!

When you engage online and post stuff on the internet, you are stuck with it for the long term, it’s no short term relationship boy, you are in it for the long haul! Gear up because all your words, actions, bigotry, lies, and deceits are forever documented online.

Yes, from time to time, I will joggle the public memory about how deceitful you lots are. All I need to do is Google the name “Nigerian Atheists” and drop some factual evidence of this damning episode and let whoever or whichever group is talking about Nigerian Atheists have the links to full gist of unfolding events here and let the true colours of the people behind this Nigerian Atheists fa├žade shine through!

Oh boy, you people have got some free publicity coming. I mean, Kunle Ogunyemi had to beg his American FB friend contact to publish the minutes of the Nigerian Atheist meeting and promote the group on American sites, well, you want publicity, now you got it coming daily on Google! This promises to be fun!


 HOTEM DAJENID WROTE-  
“Also, just because someone screams that he or she was misrepresented and misquoted, doesn't make it so.”

My Analysis- 
 It may not make it so, but you forgot the important part that when in doubt, go the fair way.

- Why attribute a quote to someone and publish it when you are in doubt about whether the person actually said it?

- Why make such categorical statements when you were not even at the meeting?

- Considering that you voluntarily blocked this person you are talking about even before this fiasco, what proof is there that you are not already biased?

- What really is your interest in Nigerian Atheists group since you are an Ugandan and resides in Uganda?

- Why not concentrate your dubious efforts in building an Ugandan Atheists group or is it that Ugandans are not as gullible as Nigerians or your dubious reputation is already known in Uganda and would be a hindrance to you getting some hard dollar bills from international Atheists community?

Hotem Dajenid WROTE-

 "If it were up to me, she would simply be expelled from Nigerian Atheists."

My Analysis-
Hmm Hotem Dajenid, the Ugandan, who resides in Uganda, says “If it were up to me, she would simply be expelled from Nigerian Atheists”.

- Another bigoted African using the dictator’s language, talking without thinking! How unfortunate, these people give Africa a bad image!

- Also imagine if this was coming from a white person, wouldn’t it be seen as neo-colonialism and patronizing attitude? Hmm, I guess sometimes, having a black skin has its privileges, e.g. you could get to be a patriarchal, chauvinistic, bigoted, sexist asshole and no one raises an eyebrow!

Hotem Dajenid WROTE-  

“Yes. Yes. Well said Gamba. Kunle, from what I understand, simply wrote what everyone witnessed, which exposed her negative attitude. She's pissed because she wants the record twisted to reflect the idea that she's sweet, positive and promotes good working relationships with everyone.”

My Analysis

Obviously this caveman has no idea what ideals Yemis Ilesanmi stands for! Yemisi Ilesanmi is widely known for not playing sweet or fakery. Truth, critical thinking and logical analysis are all more important to Yemisi Ilesanmi than trying “to reflect the idea that she's sweet, positive and promotes good working relationships with everyone.”

If only people would do their homework!

Hotem Dajenid WROTE- 

“In response to Gamba, Yemisi doesn't have a case. She has no witnesses to back up her claim”

My Analysis-

- Oh Hotem, what is more important to you.. the truth or availability of witnesses?

- You just unwittingly show once again, what an unprincipled and unscrupulous person you are!

- BTW, Yemisi Ilesanmi does not need witness to back her up, it was a meeting of a minority group, and she has a right not to be publicly quoted in the minutes of the meeting. You are really daft, aren’t you?

Hotem Dajenim WROTE -

“My advice is that Yemisi simply be expelled from Nigerian Atheists. She's not the only fish in the sea”

My Analysis-

- Now they are fishermen, fishing in the sea? How so Apostle Paul like… Hmm Apostle Hotem, Apostle Gambo and Apostle Kunle fishing in the sea for bigger fishes for Atheism all to attract funders in hard currencies. Gawd! Small brains!

Hotem Dajenim WROTE-

 “Excluding Yemisi, Nigerian Atheists has a core of compatible gentlemen. Yemisi was a good experience for all of us--makes us aware of our vulnerabilities and makes us very cautious as to whom we invite to serve on our board. A period of a year's observation is in order before we build the board from what it is now. “

My Analysis-

- “Excluding Yemisi, Nigerian Atheists has a core of compatible gentlemen” lol!

- Hmmm.. Obviously Yemisi Ilesanmi was a real test for the “gentlemen”.

- Nigerian atheists group wants “gentlemen” not assertive ladies… why not just put a notice on the group page ... ‘No assertive ladies welcomed, Women must be submissive because they evolved from the ribs of atheists gentle men!” Lol!

- These guys can’t even see all that poisonous residue of religion in their own words and actions… pathetic!

Hotem Dajenid WROTE-

 “If Yemisi wants to start her own organisation, perhaps named: Nigerian Women Atheists, that would go a long way to keep women involved--and to see how Yemisi gets along with her sisters.”

My Analysis-

- Yeah, the ‘gentlemen’ obviously feel challenged by an intelligent, assertive woman, they want the women to run along and go form a woman’s organization.

- The gentlemen have no balls to match the brains of the women.. so they find a way to kick them out!

Hotem Dajenid WROTE-  

“Again, well said! And at a time before NGA accumulated assets.”

My Analysis- 

- Hmm so finally Hotem Dajenid unwittingly let out his real motive behind Nigerian Atheists group… Accumulation of assets under the name Nigerian Atheists group.

- How deceptive! Pray, how is this different from Bishop David Oyedepo and all the other jet set pastors fleecing poor congregation members of monies while they jet off all over the world in their private jets?

- Hotem Dajenid and Kunle Ogunyemi publicly condemn religious leaders’ exploitation of religious believers while they themselves plot how they are going to accumulate assets using the Nigerian Atheists as a cover front?

- Any wonder that Kunle Ogunyemi begged his American FB friend to help promote “his “ organization on American blogs? How pathetic!

Hotem Dajenid WROTE-  

“We have witnessed her outrageous temperament on this page. Even if we arrive at a point where everyone kisses and makes up, I fear for the future when, again, Yemisi perceives an injustice done against her. In the future, Nigerian Atheists may have property and funds at stake, when her tornado of rage will be a serious threat to a more advanced NGA.”

My Analysis-

- Once again these give away words… “Nigerian Atheists may have property and funds at stake”,

- So it is really about accumulating property and funds using the name 'Nigerian Atheists', how enlightening! 



Now to analyze Gamba Joel’s comments.. Remember Gamba is also known as GAMBAGATE following the exposure on his plagiarizing 99% of comments and posts he ever made on the Nigerian Atheists group page! So here comes my analysis of Gamba the GAMBAGATE comments!


Gamba Joel Sb WROTE-

“She'd been expelled. In fact, she had never accepted a membership right from the begining.”

My Analysis-

We all know now that Gamba Joel can hardly string together a logical, original thought but even I keep getting surprised at the level of this incompetence of his.

He said, “She'd been expelled” Really? Expelled by whom, when and how?

 Is thinking really that difficult for this guy who actually claims he wants to spread logic and critical reasoning to other people? Looks like he needs a large dose of brain activation!

His statement itself is a SELF EVIDENT LIE AS WELL AS VERY CHILDISH.

What rational adults say a thing like that knowing it is obviously non factual and still try to pass it off as if it were a fact? He must be really dense or thinks Nigerian Atheists group members are kindergarten kids!